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Heraldry and Titles of Rank

∞ Vicki’s note –

You get two related articles/sources in one Posting:

Interesting to read that Coat of Arms does not = Surname.  I still claim the few  Coats of Arms that I know associated with some of my ancestor’s surnames, and “my” Muir family castle in Ireland.

I think in America (U.S.A), that we don’t concern ourselves much with the conventions of heraldry and distinctions of  titles of rank.  I even saw places on-line where anyone can buy title of rank, so I think that the whole world’s attitude toward the (mostly former) formal distinctions is relaxing.

This is not to insult my BLOG’s British, Scottish, and Irish, etc. viewers.  I do realize that titles of rank are still very important and current in your cultures.

I am adding all of these links to my BLOG “Genealogy Links and Electronic Helps” page.


Wow – look at the rare gem of a website that I found today.

Read more about the Titles of Rank in this really extensive website.  After reading through these lists, I may have to reconsider my statement about “mostly former distinctions” above.  My anthropological and history background reminds me that humans have set up hierarchies and named distinctions as an on-going aspect of being part of human cultures.

There are a lot of wide-ranging lists here at – http://www.sunderedspheres.com/titles-of-rank.html

That website includes:

“Ranks of All Nations Possible” historic & modern – i.e.

Royal and Noble Ranks, Modern and Historic Military Ranks, Modern and Historic Political Ranks,  Modern and Historic Religious Hierarchy, Monastic ranks, Knights/Militant Ranks,  Historical Titles and Classes, Scots, Welsh, Irish, British, Byzantine, Estonian, French, Germanic, German, Saxon, Gothic, Greek, Hungarian, Italian, Languedoc (Southern French), Norse, Roman Empire, Russian, Slovenian, Spanish, Egyptian (Ancient), Hausa & Mali, Hindustani,  Islamic/Religious, Japanese, Mongol, Moorish, Persian, Semitic & Hebrew, Swahili, Turkic, Turkish, Chileno, United States, and Miscellaneous Ranks

The first part of that website states:

Titles of Rank

Ranks and their Definitions:

The following social ranks are given from highest to lowest instead of alphabetically.  The titles given are first male then female, and the etymology is terrestrial.  


“Heraldry Websites for Genealogy”

is an article from FamilyTreeMagazine.com  on a topic that we don’t often see. Read the whole article here:



Myth: Many surnames have a coat of arms.

Fact: Coats of arms are not attached to a surname, but rather to an individual. People with the same surname may be entitled to different coats of arms, or not have one at all, unless they can prove that they are directly descended from a legitimate male member of that line – or one is granted to them.

The American Heraldry Society


College of Arms

Heraldry for Genealogists 

Institute of Heraldic and Genealogical Studies—UK

American College of Heraldry

Coats of Arms from Ireland

 Game of Thrones.


More on My Muir Family

Vicki’s Note – I was thrilled to have my sisters share this page on Facebook about our Muir Family.  This is where I would go if I ever get to visit Scotland.  You can read my previous Post about our Muir Family by searching “muir” on This BLOG.  The family was Scots – Irish.  Hummmm – writers; historians.  That’s familiar.


Antiquities, coins, ruins and castles – An all original, photo-rich Tumblr

Rowallan Castle, Scotland

This grand Renaissance mansion is based around a late 13th century tower house. Extended over the centuries that followed, it was the home of the influential Muir family who counted writers, historians, and composers amongst their number; the earliest lute music to survive in Scotland was written at Rowallan.

The castle is located near Kilmaurs, about 5 kilometres (3.1 mi) north of Kilmarnock, East Ayrshire, Scotland.

My Muir Family

My Muir Family

by Vicki Hahn

Katherine Kemnitz suggested looking up your ancestors by googling ‘your family’s name’ society”.

I am lucky enough to have a brother – John Ruthe, who decided he wanted to be the clan leader of a Scots/Irish Clan in Alaska, where he lives.  He had several Scots/Irish branches of our family to choose from.

(We are Welsh, English, German, French, as well. And my children have Bohemian, and American Indian.  The grandchildren add Ethiopian, Swedish, and others.  So I’m Heinz 57 and will learn about a lot of ancestry.)

John decided to research our Muir (Moore) family and was able to go back to 700 a.d.

And yes, I am very proud of him, and his initiative and results.

He used “tribalpages.com” – which promises – “Build your free family tree online easily and effortlessly with Tribal Pages genealogy tree maker & free ancestry tree research tools.”  Now, one of my efforts will be to verify the quick family history that he got by glomming onto others’ family trees there.  I know that he did not do our Club standard recommended search – verify each fact of your family history with 3 sources.  But, assuming we actually go back to the ancestors that he found, my family has a clan, a tartan, a castle, a crest badge, a motto, and a herald.

John “proved” his/our direct link back to the Muir Clan, and now is the tribal clan leader for Alaska – judging at Highland Games, while wearing the Muir Tartan kilt.

John on the left

John Judging Games
John judging

John on the left in Muir Tartan Kilt .

John connected us up to  “our” Muir Facebook Site:

Official Clann Muir Society WorldWide.

Look it up if you only want to know more about Scotland/Ireland history, or just like watching videos of marching kilt-wearing men as they play bagpipes and drums.  So fun.

Clan Muir Herald and Tartan
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My (Moore) Muir Family Tartan.  I always knew that Blue/Green was my favorite color, and yellow and red were “my” colors.  Now I see why.

Muir Herald
Muir Crest Badge

Muir Clan Motto – “Durum Patientia Frango”

(By patience I break what is hard).


Muir Family Herald

We got notified, as Muirs, about a book on this webpage


“Welcome to The Mures! This site is all about Family – including those whose surnames are More, Moore, and Muir. And including those with Scottish and Irish roots.

I have started this site primarily to get my Mure family history, just published, before the public. The book is titled The Origins of the Mure Family. Written by Robert B. More…”

I did buy the Muir book.  Very interesting ancient family history (mine 🙂

Writing a book is one way to save your Family History Genealogy Research.  (Ask me about a Family History Genealogy Research form to add to your will – it let’s your family know how important it is to you, and you can suggest people/institutions to inherit your research.)

We will be exploring the writing of family histories more in Stateline Genealogy Club programs.

Rowallan Castle

Rowallan Castle 1876, home of the Rowallan Mures

Alrighty then, there are some examples of how you can connect up (easily) with more about your family history.

How many more family surnames to go??